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  1. ghoonk
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    Just picked up my Nokia 5800 this evening from Sharaf DG, a local electronics chain. Cost me AED1499, and came with an 8GB memory card.

    I'm a HTC G1 user as well, having moved from a Nokia E51 to the G1 just over a month ago. I'm pleasantly surprised that the 5800 supports Mail for Exchange, and has a built-in GPS. As a long-time Nokia user, I'm also pleasantly surprised with the ease of using the touchscreen T9 keypad.

    I am, however, slightly disappointed with the inconsistency of the kinetic scrolling -- it works much like the iPhone and G1 in the web browser where sliding my thumb down moves me up the page, but this is not the case in most other parts of the menu. I do hope the Nokia sorts this out, and gives users an option to choose how they prefer to scroll.

    I'm also wondering if there is a way to change to the Asian firmware so that I can input Chinese pinyin, since I do not require German, French and other European languages.

    Posted: 1 year #
  2. Hi, Welcome to the forum!

    You should be able to change your firmware languages if you change your product code. It has been this way in Symbian OS9.3 and below, I'm pretty sure it will be that way for OS9.4 as well.

    Do keep reporting on your experiences, etc, and if you don't mind reviewing some of the apps, games, and themes you have at the forum, we'll be happy to read them, and perhaps even publish them at the blog.

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    Posted: 1 year #
  3. ghoonk
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    All in, I would say that I had a positive experience since opening the box. The unit is well-made, albeit, lacks a 'solid' feel. This seems to be the direction that Nokia is heading in (e.g. Nokia 6220 Classic).

    As a long-time Nokia user (my last phone being the E51) as well as an Enterprise-biased user, I was pleasantly surprised to find the phone supporting Nokia's Mail for Exchange client. An added bonus was that the virtual/soft T9 keypad was natural to use, with just enough haptic feedback to give it feel without being overwhelming.

    Music
    3GB of music took over an hour to copy over using Windows Media Player 11's sync capabilities, which I found something concerning, especially since this is supposed to support USB2.0. Music playback is amazing over the stereo speakers on the left side of the device, and I found stereo widening to be more natural over the speakers than the headset. Playback quality was comparable to, if not slightly better than my iPod Photo, although I did find that there was a volume setting that was too soft, and bumping it up a notch made it a tad too loud.

    Video

    I had a bunch of MP4 videos downloaded from YouTube that I copied onto the device. Some played back fine, others did not fare as well. I have some videos that I previously converted from DVD rips using the Nokia Internet Tablet Video Converter (available from Nokia Beta Labs) that I use for my Nokia N800 Internet Tablet. I will load these up later and share my impressions of the playback. I did, however, notice that the Dark Knight trailer that was included on the device was playing back in a stretched format, and sadly, this does not show off the true capability of the 5800 as a video player. The tips & tricks videos work fine, showing what how good a properly formatted/converted video can look on the 5800. As my set is an EU model, Chinese characters are not displayed, making it impossible for me to use this with my Chinese/Japanese pop titles. Interestingly enough, my G1 has no problems with Asian character sets

    Performance
    In most instances, there is a slightly noticeable lag in making a selection and moving back to the previous menu. The lag is especially bad when starting or ending video/music playback, but I'm just being picky. There isn't much lag when composing SMS and emails, so that's good in my books.

    Connectitvity

    Haven't tried connecting via BT yet, but microUSB seems to be much faster if I set the device as a Mass Storage Device than as a Music device. I'm not impressed with the microUSB, which is about as handy as the extUSB standard created by HTC (I have a G1 as well) -- I do wish they stuck with miniUSB as this now means that I have yet another USB cable that I need to tote around when I travel.

    Contacts Bar

    A nice idea, but not something I am accustomed to yet. The amount of data displayed is just enough to show the last 4 interactions/communications, which is almost pointless. It would help if they incorporated Chat/Conversations as they did in the E51, but this remains to be seen.

    Going online

    Setting up my APN and Wifi connections were a breeze, although the new OS deviates slightly from the previous incarnations of S60. Connections are now classified by Internet, and you simply add the relevant profiles into the group and order them by priority, and the system simply gets you online according to the preferred connection.

    Web browsing is pretty good, and very much consistent with the typical S60 browser. I have not experienced anything out of the ordinary yet. Compared the web browser on the G1, this one is almost primitive. I managed to get Mail for Exchange working, and as expected, it worked perfectly and quickly. All my appointments, tasks, emails (over 70) and contacts (over 500) were synced in a matter of minutes. I have not yet set up my personal Gmail, but I do not expect it to come close to the Gmail push mail client on the G1.

    Camera

    Tried this indoors last night and was properly disappointed. I get better pictures off my Sony Ericsson K800i, a pretty dated model with a 3.2MP camera and no benefit of the Carl Zeiss optics found on the 5800. Whether there is improvement in natural light remains to be seen. That said, the camera on the 5800 is a huge improvement over the G1's.

    UI consistency
    Nokia needs to get their act together on this one as the UI lacks implementation consistency

    e.g. in the web browser, you drag the page around as you would on an iPhone or G1, but in other parts of the system like the menus, it works conversely

    e.g. some apps require a double tap to execute, others will run the file with just 1 tap. I suspect there may be more to this, and will be looking into this in the next 24 hours.

    Impressions

    The 5800 remains first and foremost a phone, media player second. The lag can be somewhat bothersome for a device that is touted to be a media device. So far, I'm having mixed feelings about the 5800 - I love it as a phone, and was easily texting and calling friends and family within minutes (zero learning curve), but I hate the lag and the UI quirkiness.

    Posted: 1 year #
  4. ghoonk
    Member

    Meraj, how do I change my product code? And how do I get the Asian firmware for my phone?

    Posted: 1 year #
  5. Do you mind if I post your review over at the blog?

    I am not sure how you will change the product code for this phone, here is how you do it for S60 v3.x:

    You need to have the product code for Asian version, and then just install firmware as normal.

    Posted: 1 year #
  6. ghoonk
    Member

    Sure, go ahead!

    I don't think the product code for the Asian version is out yet. Also, even if I change the product code, won't I need to have the firmware on hand to flash it?

    Posted: 1 year #
  7. ghoonk
    Member

    To add to my earlier review of the 5800, I've also noticed that the screen is not a transflective TFT, i.e. it washes out in daylight and the screen is barely readable.

    If anyone is able to get their hands on the product code for the Asian version of the 5800, please share this on the forum as I am getting quite peeved at not having Asian language support

    If it helps anyone, mine is an EU version, product code 0575378

    Posted: 1 year #
  8. Will post probably on Monday, thanks!

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  9. Yoshaw
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    I have not yet set up my personal Gmail, but I do not expect it to come close to the Gmail push mail client on the G1.

    Hi Ghoonk, I'm also from Dubai. And yes, I'm upgrading from E51 to 5800 too. So a slight similarity there. No, I've not yet seen the G1 though. Regarding your sentence in the quote above. Could you please help me by answering some of the questions regarding pushmail in Dubai(especially from Etisalat). I had it on E51 and it was the most ridiculous thing ever as I couldn't make it IMAP no matter what I did. I couldn't even change any settings within etisalat java software, it was locked. Please email me at metalgearih-atthe-rate-geemale-dot-com.

    I could seriously use your help or expertise on this. Gmail is all I use and if you could help me setup IMAP for gmail on my new 5800XM, that'd be brilliant. Looking forward to ur reply. Kindly write '5800&Pushmail' in subject so I can know its you. Thanks.

    Posted: 1 year #
  10. You should monitor the forum for any replies, for better assistance, create your own thread.

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